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Locked out! November 16, 2006

Posted by Florian in GPE, World.

Sorry… i have to complain a little bit again.

It sounds unbelievable, but i was locked out from the handhelds.org open source platform one week ago. So how did that happen?

After GPE finally moved to its new hosting location (see http://gpe.linuxtogo.org) i published a short story about this and to say “thank you” to all the people who worked on handhelds.org in the last few years. Obviously George (who is the current boss of handhelds.org Inc.) doesn’t seem to be able to appreciate this. He deleted my message from the website and disabled my accounts. For “investigations” he told me… eh us he disabled Nils’ account too for no reason. Well… i can live with the fact that he did not like we moved away with GPE and its ok for me if he does not appreciate if i thank him, but censoring my message and locking out people bindly is a little bit violent. But before i get really annoyed i just stop this and publish my announcement from hh.org here again:

GPE finally moved to its new hosting location at linuxtogo.org. We have several new services and improvements to make it easier to get in touch with GPE, to use and to join the project. Just visit us at http://gpe.linuxtogo.org and the GForge project page located here.

Even after quite some bad words related to this move we would like to say “thank you” for hosting and support in the last five years.

Without handhelds.org GPE simply would not exist and i guess that there are quite some more project members who can say the same about their projects and even more in future.

Well… Nils found some better words:


1. just me - November 16, 2006

I sounds unbelievable that you performed an unfriendly take-over. Can’t help it but the way that it happend was unnecessarily bad mannered. And yes, I know that you and Nils are long time contributors to GPE. But this way. No. You should be ashamed.

2. fl0rian - November 16, 2006

Many thanks for your comment… i expected something like this. Don’t worry – i will not remove your comment, this would bring me to the same level like George and then i had to complain about myself ;-)

If your read the old GPE mailinglist you will find out that only two people had a problem moving GPE to a new location. One of these suggested to close handhelds.org for contributions some time ago and make it a read-only site. Apart from this noone came up with a single rational argument why we shouldn’t move.

But lets come back to your comment: Who are you that you make such an accusation? Who can claim to judge what the project founder and some major contributors do with a project? As you are posting anonymous i can only guess who you are… but sorry to say that quite open: It reads a little bit arrogant. Don’t get me wrong, there are a few people in the world who might have the right to go on like this, but i don’t think you are one of them.

3. Koen - November 16, 2006

I can only say this: LMAO

4. just me - November 16, 2006

“Many thanks for your comment…” My pleasure ;-)

fwiw – I’ll try to make my point more clear: George has been hosting hh.org since 2003 and thus is an open source contributor.

There is no need to give him a public slap on a blog that has large visibility via planet gnome. Everybody who has been following the development of GPE knows about the (lack of) quality of hh.org. No question that people would follow you whereever you go. No need to give George a public kick in the face.

He removed your news entries and deactivted yor accounts – so what? Just lean back and relax. Really.

Koen: unfriendly take over was only meant wrt the hosting of the project and not the project itself. And I still consider it unfriendly because they could have done it in a friendly way without any personal and public animosities – in my humble opinion.

Nevertheless being a user of GPE, thanks Florian and Koen. Should I cross your path I’ll get you a beer.

5. James Henstridge - November 16, 2006

Just me: If they are the developers of the project, how can it be a takeover? The project was using services provided by handhelds.org, and now they are using services provided by linuxtogo.org.

When the project tried to “leave a forwarding address” so that users would know where to look for new GPE releases, that notice was taken down.

This event is relevant to any project who might consider using handhelds.org services — if you later want to move, you won’t be able to tell your users where you’ve gone.

6. fl0rian - November 17, 2006

re 4.
George did good work over several years, but i can’t see any reason why this should justify his current behaviour. I’m not talking about all the really nasty things going on behind the scenes… (no, i’m not going to talk about these).
What currently is going on is an insane game about power and revenge which just causes damage of our reputation and damage to the GPE project caused by someone not involved in the project. Sorry to say that but there is no justification for that and ears a slap in the face if nothing else helps… and don’t tell me i didn’t try.

7. Koen - November 17, 2006

I think James’ reponse sums it all up. Couldn’t have said it better.

8. naisioxerloro - November 29, 2007

Good design, who make it?

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